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Giants (5-2) at New England Patriots (5-2) Week 9 Today, 4:15 p.m. Gillette Stadium, Foxborough, Mass. TV: Fox Radio: WFAN 660-AM THIS WEEK'S GAME REVOLVES AROUND ... Eli Manning By now the story is old and tired, but the point stands the same. If Manning wants to prove he's elite, there's no better time to do so than the week he's facing Tom Brady, the quarterback to whom he drew comparisons. Especially because this will be a game in which the passing game will be vital. The Patriots allow a league-worst 323 passing yards a game and second-to-last 8.3 yards per pass attempt. New England is also down to only a handful of capable cornerbacks and their best one, Rutgers product Devin McCourty, has struggled this year. If he plays, Hakeem Nicks will be doing so with an injured hamstring so it will be on Manning to make the most of what he's got. The Steelers dominated time of possession last week for more than 39 minutes by throwing the ball 50 times. New England is 30th in the NFL in stopping third-down conversion, allowing conversions at a 46.1 percent clip. Manning was 10-of-15 passing last week on third down and the Giants may need to use a similar plan to maintain the ball and keep Brady and the offense at bay. If Manning keeps circulating the ball around as well as he has been (five different receivers have been targeted at least 24 times), he may find a weak spot in the Pats' defense for tight end Jake Ballard with FootballOutsiders.com showing that New England is 27th in the NFL in stopping tight ends. THE SAVVY FAN IS WATCHING ... Antrel Rolle and Deon Grant These two will have a large burden. The Patriots love to attack the middle of the field. Wes Welker does his best work in the slot and between the hash marks, finding a way to get open even when covered. Tight ends Aaron Hernandez and Rob Gronkowski also cause trouble. Hernandez is too fast to be covered by a linebacker, and on vertical routes he creates easy mismatches. Gronkowski can be too physical for a cornerback so the role of covering him could fall to the safeties, who need to be strong enough to muscle up with him -- especially in the red zone where he uses his body like a basketball player underneath the basket to get position. PAST MEETINGS Oct. 18, 1970 at New England: Giants 16, Patriots 0 Sept. 22, 1974: Patriots 28, Giants 20 Nov. 8, 1987: Giants 17, Patriots 10 Dec. 30, 1990 at New England: Giants 13, Patriots 10 Dec. 21, 1996: Patriots 23, Giants 22 Sept. 26, 1999 at New England: Patriots 16, Giants 14 Oct. 12, 2003 at New England: Patriots 17, Giants 6 Dec. 29, 2007: Patriots 38, Giants 35 Feb. 3, 2008, Super Bowl XLII: Giants 17, Patriots 14 Remember when ... The Giants and Patriots played one of the most memorable Super Bowls ever. Super Bowl XLII saw the Patriots come in as 18-0 juggernauts while the Giants were 14-point underdogs. Instead, the Giants' pass rush caused havoc for New England and forced Tom Brady into a rough day. Eli Manning completed two memorable passes, one to David Tyree that will be remembered as the "Helmet Catch" and the game-winning touchdown throw to Plaxico Burress with 35 seconds remaining, on his way to the Super Bowl MVP award. Star-Ledger reporters Mike Vorkunov, Steve Politi and Giants beat writer Mike Garafolo discuss the upcoming Giants at the Patriots game Star-Ledger reporters Mike Vorkunov, Steve Politi and Giants beat writer Mike Garafolo discuss the upcoming Giants at the Patriots game Star-Ledger reporters Mike Vorkunov, Steve Politi and Giants beat writer Mike Garafolo discuss the upcoming Giants at the Patriots game up in Foxboro. They go over the team getting into the tough part of the schedule and taking on the Patriots that have not lost in Foxboro in the last 18 tries. (Video by William Perlman/The Star-Ledger) Watch video WHAT THE PATRIOTS DON'T WANT THE GIANTS TO KNOW 1. They can run the ball New England may not do it often, only running on 36 percent of their plays, but when they do, it can be effective. The Patriots are 12th in the NFL in yards per carry at 4.5 yards. BenJarvus Green-Ellis can wear down a defense -- look no further than what he did to the Jets in the fourth quarter -- and Steve Ridley has explosive ability -- averaging 6.4 yards per carry. With defenses predicated on stopping Brady and the well-oiled passing machine, when the Patriots do sneak in runs, they can often be productive. 2. They're not exclusively a 3-4 team The Patriots are known for running a 3-4 base defense, with three down linemen and four linebackers, but that's not exactly the case. They do a good job of mixing it up with a 4-3 formation where they can more effectively rush the passer with Andre Carter and Mark Anderson -- who are their leading pass rushers with 4 1/2 sacks each. Carter has especially been effective with two sacks apiece in each of the last two games. But even when it looks like they are running a 3-4, it can be deceptive as linebacker Rob Ninkovich comes off the edge, sometimes even getting into three-point stance at the last second. 3. The receiving corps isn't just three-deep Forgotten behind Wes Welker's outstanding season and the two-headed tight end combination of Aaron Hernandez and Rob Gronkowski is Deion Branch. Very quietly, he's having a good season. He's 36th in the league in receptions and 33rd in receiving yards, but that's as a third or fourth option most games. According to FootballOutsiders.com, Branch is actually a top-15 receiver when taking the opponent's defense and situation into play. Not bad for someone playing in the shadows. POSITION BREAKDOWNS Quarterback As great of a year as Eli Manning is having, he still falls behind Tom Brady in most major categories. Edge: Patriots Running back Since the start of last season, BenJarvus-Green Ellis has the third most rushing touchdowns in the NFL with 18. Edge: Giants Wide receiver Wes Welker has been the most targeted receiver in the league and leads the NFL in catches. Edge: Patriots Offensive line The Patriots' offensive line has opened the running lanes at 4.5 yards per attempt, 12th best in the NFL this season. Edge: Patriots Defensive line Mathias Kiwanuka got into the act last week with 1½ sacks, his third straight week with at least one. Edge: Giants Linebackers Jerod Mayo returned last week against the Steelers to help a defense that has been middle of the pack against the run. Edge: Patriots Secondary Devin McCourty has fallen from last year's Pro Bowl performance as a rookie as the Patriots have the league's worst pass defense. Edge: Giants Special teams At 13.6 yards per return, Julian Edelman has the highest punt return average in franchise history. Edge: Patriots Giants David Baas.JPG Joe Proudman/The Star-LedgerGiants center David Baas will not play against the Patriots today, thanks to a knee injury. FOUR DOWNS WITH ... Center David Baas 1. Though the running game hasn't always been successful, does it open up the passing game for Eli Manning because of the number of defenders flooding the line of scrimmage? We have to realize that there's times when that will happen but we still have to run it better and get better numbers even though they are bringing a lot of people because we know we can do that. But of course once it's the opposite way and they're all out coming after us and we're able to throw it over their head and we can make better pass plays, we'll take that, too. You never settle for the numbers that you see, you always want to improve that. 2. More than usual this week, did Tom Coughlin make it a point of emphasis to get the running game going? We're going about it the same way. We know what it is. The statistics are statistics; they don't lie. But there's a lot of different scenarios within those statistics that, you know, everybody is really involved with it. It's the offensive line, it's the tight ends, the running backs that can all help this thing get going and have our numbers be better. But there's a lot of stuff that we leave out there. So it's definitely an emphasis each and every week. We constantly have to get better because sometimes it's execution; sometimes it's a misread. It's all of us. That's fine. The offensive line usually puts stuff on our shoulders and we'll take this one, too. It's something that's been here for a really long time and we have to have that going forward to really have a good balance. It is an important emphasis. It's just like (David) Diehl said, it's a challenge each and every week. NFL teams are all good but it would be a good statement to get something done against a very good team like the Patriots. But we're not going to all of a sudden panic. We just have to keep working at it and I feel like it'll be there. 3. Is it difficult to look at this schedule and say this is what lies in front of us and not look at this first game. How do you approach it? The coach's mindset is just one game, what about you? Yeah, one game. It has to be. If you get caught up in all of that other stuff, `Oh, guess who's coming up in two weeks? San Francisco.' You know, you can't look at that. You have to take it one week at a time and focus on that. That really helps. Truthfully, the only reason I know we play San Francisco after the Patriots is because it's San Francisco. I can't tell you who we play after San Francisco. I truly can't. It just doesn't get to that point until that week. More coverage: o Complete Giants coverage on NJ.com o Giants videos o Giants photos 4. Watching them on film, do they play a lot of 4-3 and rush the passer out of that formation instead of the 3-4 they're thought to play? They have that personnel. They'll line up a certain way where they'll have almost like a 3-4 look but they'll have Andre (Carter) outside and let him get after the passer. They had Tully Banta-Cain there for a while. They're good pass rushers, no doubt about it. They're fast. Andre has been around for 11 years or so, pretty savvy. They're going to try to get the push up front, that way the quarterback can't step up. It's a challenge. For sure it is. We just have to match that and go beyond that. ONE MORE THING ... History does not seem to be on the Giants' side. The Patriots have won 20 straight home games during the regular season, they are 26-2 since 2003 following a regular season loss, Tom Brady has won 31 straight home starts during the regular season and are 18-1 at Gillette Stadium against NFC teams. Mike Vorkunov: mvorkunov@starledger.com Inappropriate post? Alert us. Sponsored Links Share this story Print Email Story tools More stories in New York Giants Previous story Giants' pass rush is key against Tom Brady, Patriots in rematch of Super Bowl XLII Next story Giants' Jason Pierre-Paul active for game vs. Patriots Copyright 2012 NJ.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. 21 Comments Feed [BUTTON] View: Oldest first | Newest first 1 | 2 Next comments » lmhedaa low country Giant November 06, 2011 at 6:53AM Follow You couldn't find a better picture of our #2 rated QB than one that seems to say, "Gollee, Barney, where is New England anyways?" Inappropriate? Alert us. Reply Post new jwiszyns Dank3st November 06, 2011 at 7:23AM Follow You give the Giants the edge on Running Backs with a Bradshaws whose not playing with a broken foot and a Jacobs whose been injured and running the wrong way all year??? And our def line is better which has given up the most big plays on the ground all season...??? Yes we do have some of the best pass rushers in the game, but if they have a lead and they are breaking for 30 yard runs every down, thats not going to be to helpful. Inappropriate? Alert us. Reply Post new einstein77 einstein77 November 06, 2011 at 7:34AM Follow 5th question for David Baas: silly reporter "Are you playing today?" David: "No" Inappropriate? Alert us. Reply Post new rmemberYA rememberYA November 06, 2011 at 9:14AM Follow Da'Rel Scott? Please? Inappropriate? Alert us. Reply Post new phatdaddy4 phatdaddy4 November 06, 2011 at 10:35AM Follow Lol, god one lcG, but in the words of TO, "that's my qb"..lol Good points Dank3st..einstein77, good name, great question & answer...rememberYA, all we can do is ask..pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease, pretty pleeeease....Here's my point, this game will not prove that Elite is an ELITE qb. Win, lose, or draw (this game) this game does nothing for Elite' status. I say that because the Patriots have no pass rush, the secondary is suspect, and Elite is coming into this game without a complete tool box. No excuses but you take away any qb's top back, #1 wr, and CENTER, i'm willing to bet that he won't be on his A-game. Elite is an ELITE qb and that's that. This game alone will not change anything. Also isn't Elite 1-1 against Brady winning (in the words of Fred Sanford) The Big One over Tom "the so called great" Brady.....i'm just saying......In Reese We Trust gggg-giants Inappropriate? Alert us. Reply Post new rmemberYA rememberYA November 06, 2011 at 10:47AM Follow Thing is, as the poster NYGinChi pointed out a few days ago, this game does not matter as much as say, the Philly game. Or next week's San Fran game (who I hope can knock another one off the Skins W count). I'd trade a L in this game for a W over Philly in a heartbeat. But it's the whole "rematch of SB 42" hype. Plus I think Eli may be trying to prove he can compete with Brady. I hate these whole "rep on the line" type of games, cuz they always seem to backfire on the Giants. We're always better under the radar, rising up to bite someone in the aspirin (thanks for that one Blue Reeses!) when they least expect it. So I'm going into my "expect the worst, hope for the best" classic Giants fan defensive posture. GO GIANTS! BEDEVIL BRADY!!!! Inappropriate? Alert us. Reply Post new phatdaddy4 phatdaddy4 November 06, 2011 at 11:08AM Follow I expect us to win this game, but win-lose-or draw, most important of all, i expect the young guys to put some good material on tape (good and bad). You can't learn from your mistakes if you're not allowed to make them or if you just don't make any at all. That's why Cruzzzzzzzzzzzzzz is getting better. He has his mistakes on tape and week in and week out, he's correcting them. I agree with you on the hype, but we shouldn't play into because we won that game, and majority of the guys on this team wasn't on the team. Play it like it's just another game that we want to win. I expect big things from Rolle and KP, you've talk the talk, now it's time to walk the walk. Turnovers, we will need them in bunches. Lets get it..........In Reese We Trust gggg-giants Inappropriate? Alert us. Reply Post new jaywmitchell jaywmitchell November 06, 2011 at 11:09AM Follow Baas is Bam Bam Bigelow's long lost twin. Inappropriate? Alert us. Reply Post new LAGenius LAGenius November 06, 2011 at 11:30AM Follow Perfect JWM.....Baas looks just like him !!! Inappropriate? Alert us. Reply Post new phatdaddy4 phatdaddy4 November 06, 2011 at 11:44AM Follow Why aren't my posts being posted, i'm not saying anything too bad am I.......In Reese We Trust gggg-giants Inappropriate? Alert us. Reply Post new phatdaddy4 phatdaddy4 November 06, 2011 at 11:49AM Follow If my post show up, i apologize for it being posted 3 or 4 times (or however many times i tried to post it)..........In Reese We Trust gggg-giants Inappropriate? Alert us. Reply Post new crazeddog56 crazeddog56 November 06, 2011 at 2:25PM Follow I'm a big Eli supporter but I have to disagree that this game will prove him an elite QB, Mike V. He has been elite to date and should be expected to tear up this NE pass defense even without Nicks. They have been flat out awful. 350 yds & 3 TD's would not surprise me. Inappropriate? Alert us. Reply Post new crazeddog56 crazeddog56 November 06, 2011 at 2:27PM Follow Soory Phat. That wasn't meant as a response to you. I started out responding to you that I was having problems w/my posts showing up as well but switched my comment after I started typing. Inappropriate? Alert us. Reply Post new nybam nybam November 06, 2011 at 11:56AM Follow I believe my Giants will win. Get your heart attack pills ready. wake me up when the 4 quarter start. Go Giants.... Inappropriate? Alert us. Reply Post new jaywmitchell jaywmitchell November 06, 2011 at 11:56AM Follow Love to see some no huddle mixed in with the regular offense, this is a game where Eli could earn some of that money he makes. 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